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    Shiver Urgent Service - Rear Cylinder Oil Pressure Sensor is Dead

    Went for a rideout and got 30 miles from home before as I was coming out of a bend the revs started rising and falling and the "urgent service" light came on. Pulled the clutch in and the revs were bouncing from 3,000 to 6,000.

    Pulled over and turned her off but then she wouldn't restart. Eventually she started and ran for about 20 seconds at 6,000 rpm before she died again and now won't restart.

    Checked the diagnostics and there's no errors logged so haven't got a clue what's wrong. (Edit: I now know that ECU errors won't show up on the dashboard)

    Recovery truck got me home as all dealers are shut today due to the bank holiday in the UK. The recovery people said once everywhere's open again they'll come and take the bike to the dealer for me.

    I've no idea what's wrong or how expensive it will be but I hope not too much as the car insurance is due next week


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    Bummer - what year Shiver?

    Keep us up to date with the diagnosis/result.
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    It's a 59 plate (September 2009 for non UK guys) and only has 7,500 miles on it. I got it in March last year with 1,500 on it. It's been used all year round but well looked after, serviced and regularly coated with ACF50.

    I did a search on the forum but quickly came to the conclusion that only a dealer can read the code and it could be one of many sensors. It's a shame really as it would have been nice to have an idea of what is wrong before I got there so I could prepare my wallet.


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    The dealer has come back to me and told me the rear cylinder oil pressure sensor is shot according to the ECU error code. He can't get me a price until tomorrow.

    Does anyone have the part number so I can do a quick check on UK price before he rings me back tomorrow? Also, is it something that I could do myself or is it a complex job (I'm OK but no mechanic!)? If not how much labour time do you think should be involved?

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    So my DD threw an URGENT SERVICE a few days ago when I was riding towards Ebbets Pass on Hwy 4 at the 7,000 foot elevation.

    I said to myself, oh no, not again (thinking I'd be stranded). The motor started loping from idle to about 2500 rpm so I pulled over and turned it off. After a minute I restarted, it idled fine and then read SERVICE. I turned around and headed west towards Murphys. It still read SERVICE for the next 45 minutes or so, it seemed to run differently, seemed like it wasn't revving as easily as normal but maybe that was just me wondering if I'd make it back.

    I stopped in Murphys and had lunch. Started 'er up. No SERVICE light was showing. She ran fine, rode it home with no more issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by daesimps View Post
    The dealer has come back to me and told me the rear cylinder oil pressure sensor is shot according to the ECU error code. He can't get me a price until tomorrow.

    Does anyone have the part number so I can do a quick check on UK price before he rings me back tomorrow? Also, is it something that I could do myself or is it a complex job (I'm OK but no mechanic!)? If not how much labour time do you think should be involved?

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    Try these guys. http://www.apriliagenuineparts.co.uk...orsoduro-9.php
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    I've used those guys before but without knowing which part number I'm a bit snookered. It's a 2009 Shiver by the way.

    He said on the phone "rear cylinder oil pressure sensor" but I can only find a single oil pressure sensor for the whole bike or a rear cylinder intake pressure sensor which is what I think he means. Still not sure if that's the correct part though, and if it is I'm not sure where it is or how easy it is to get to in order to replace it myself.
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    Most likely he meant rear cylinder air pressure sensor. A number of guys on here have reported the same sensor failure.
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    That's what I figure he meant. I've seen that plenty of people on here have had the same issue.

    I've spent some time having a look around and it seems like there's a fair bit of work involved getting to it. Knowing my luck it'll be a £20 part and £500 in labour to get at it!


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    If that is it, looks like its just inside the air box which should not be that big of an issue to get to.

    And genuineparts.co.uk lists it for 53.27 GBP and AF1 it lists for $76.99 part number is 638562 on both sites.
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    If that is it then ultimate parts have it for £26.11 inc VAT. I was thinking it was part 872948 which is a couple of quid cheaper but looks to be a bit more involved to get to.

    At least I now know which it's likely to be and they're both in the same ball-park so it's not too bad. Just depends on what the labour works out to be.

    Thanks for your help - it's appreciated. There's so many similarly named parts and the dealer wasn't exact with his definition so it makes it a PITA to figure out what's actually wrong. Not helped by the fact that there's loads of people who've had this issue but not given part numbers.

    Once it's sorted I'll update this thread with the part number and price so if someone else does a search in future they'll have a better idea.


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    Here are the locations of the air press sensors. I just had the rear done and it was $112 cdn. Took 30 days to canada from Ita.
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    Cheers 6M$MAN. That looks like a bit too much work for my ability. I don't really have the skill, patience or space to be able to get to them in order to do it myself. I'm still waiting of the dealer coming back to me with the price. I reckon the labour will be the scary bit as imagine it's quite time consuming to get that amount of parts off the bike to be able to access the sensors.


    Thanks again all - I now know I'd probably not be able to do it myself. At least if anyone searches in the future there's a fair bit of info in this thread for them.

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    Hope you get it up and running soon. Hopefully with you being in Europe your wait for the part won't be that long.

    It definitely seems like faulty sensors and other assorted electrical issues are the cause of most Aprilia service issues. Motor, chassis and suspension issues are almost non-existent.

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