Grey’s Anatomy Scoop: Shonda Rhimes Previews ‘Lovely’ Mer/Der Story, ‘New’ Cristina/Owen Crisis! Plus — Is Wilson ‘The One’ For Alex?!
Grey’s Anatomy is at the midway point of Season 9, which can only mean one thing: Time to check in with the ABC drama’s boss, Shonda Rhimes!
And by “check in,” we of course mean grill her for details about the season-ending arc for Mer/Der (baby crisis?), Alex/Wilson (are they the real deal?), Cristina and Owen (baby crisis Part 2?) and much more.
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TVLINE | Back in September you told me that this would be the season Alex finds love with a woman who will not leave him. Is Wilson that woman?
Possibly. I’m hopeful. I started out this season being very specific and sure about that, and then really wanting to calibrate that for him. We’ve been watching the chemistry between them and building things. I didn’t want to jump into an immediate romance for him. He’s been the guy who sleeps with everybody, and I didn’t want to see him do that. I felt like he needed a friend. We’ve been watching that build, and I don’t want it to go too fast or too slow. We’ll see what comes. They’re now doing stuff together that just makes me laugh out loud while watching the cuts, and I don’t want to push it. Right now we’re just leaning into it.
TVLINE | Mer’s pregnancy – why do I have this sinking feeling that it’s all building to a “Love’s Labor Lost” kind of climax?
You have a bad feeling because everybody thinks I kill everybody all the time. That’s why you have a bad feeling. [Laughs] And that works to an advantage, because the audience takes it very seriously that things could happen. But in my mind I feel like we have this storyline about this person who wasn’t necessarily meant to get pregnant, but did — and is now very worried for herself. We’re going to be watching this. We have a lovely storyline planned, and I think it’s going to be very beautiful for Meredith and Derek. I hope the audience is along for the ride.
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TVLINE | Can you shed any more light on their storyline during the second half of the season?
Derek’s hand is better, but I think he feels an extreme sense of responsibility for what’s happening with the hospital. They’re going to be playing a larger part in the future of the hospital as well and trying to help fix it if they can. But mostly, I feel like you’ve been watching Meredith evolve as a leader and a doctor and a surgeon. And that’s going to continue. Portraying them as a grown-up couple has been very fun for us. It’s been nice to see.
TVLINE | When will Cristina and Owen’s lingering baby issue rear its ugly head again – because I know it’s coming.
It is going to come up. I’m so happy right now because they decided not to talk about it. Divorce has sort of freed them from feeling like they have to. It’s going to be complex. They’re something very intense about the idea that Cristina is a woman who does not want children. She’s unapologetic about it. She does not want them. And there’s nothing wrong with not wanting children. I love babies. If you gave me 40 babies I’d be thrilled. But this idea that if you place a baby in a woman’s arms and she’s going to melt is not true for some people.
I feel really strongly that we allow this character to be who she is, this woman that does not want children. She’s a surgeon and a scientist first before she is anything else, and Owen has to deal with the fact that he is in love with somebody who has a genius, versus being in love with somebody who wants to have a family. That is going to be a complex thing for them. And I’m enjoying watching them deal with not dealing with it at the moment. But yeah, they’re going to have to really talk talk about it and figure it out and struggle to figure out if they can be in love despite the fact that he wants kids and she doesn’t.
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Owen wanting kids and Cristina not just seems like a total dealbreaker. As long as she doesn’t give in and have them though.
It is, there’s no real way to do this story that isn’t compromising one character unless they just agree to be apart. I feel like thinking you want kids and wanting kids are two different things. Some people can’t be with someone who doesn’t want kids simply because they don’t like not having the option and in that case, maybe somewhere down the line that person would realize they don’t want kids either. I don’t think that’s the case with Owen, he wants kids and to quiet that for the sake of Cristina isn’t good for either of them. This storyline has to end with them breaking up for good.
Here’s the problem: Owen wants a family WITH Cristina. (Similarly, no one thinks C would want A baby or become a stereotypical “mommy”, but we can imagine her wanting THEIR baby.) He was engaged to someone who wanted kids — he chose not to live a life with someone he didn’t love. He already made that choice. Owen will never, as he said, love another woman (at least not like he loves C) so he has no choice. He will do whatever C wants because his life cannot be happy without her. What makes me mad is that this show completely discounted Owen’s grief and sacrifice re the abortion. The show is unfortunately conflating two issues: the brave and compassionate Cristina’s uncharacteristic refusal to discuss or consider keeping existing baby with Owen and their choice as a couple to move forward. (Even if they had agreed to have kids, no one thinks Owen would have left C if they could not have one.) And if C was so very sure re kids, why didn’t she have her tubes tied after first accident? And why would Shonda have originally written C having their baby at end of Season 5 and raising it in Season 6?
If “Owen wants a family WITH Cristina.” it’s something that is still to be proven. In fact the half second of the season will answer to that BIG question.
If he has children with another woman, that is the remaining proof that she’s not enough for him and he must find part of what he needs elsewhere. As other posters pointed out that proves beyond doubt that theiy’re not compatible. Not MFEO. Thing that I never heard SR saying they were, by the way.
Please Shonda admit you went too far with these two. They’re irrecoverable.
Wouldn’t it blow our minds if Owen and Cristina decides to have a kid. So she gets knocked up with twins and the bar ho returns with Owen’s baby too. all this done out of wedlock…
Karen, I don’t get Shonda’s logic either! Maybe she doesn’t have one. Looks like her writers didn’t think things through. Holes everywhere in the plotline.
I second that…” NO WAY OUT! “
Yeah, I’m not sure how they could compromise that. It’s like Meredith herself said- there’s nothing worse than knowing you have a mother who could not care less about you. Cristina better not give in, it’s nice to have a portrayal of a woman who doesn’t want kids and is presented as being normal for it as opposed to it being like there’s something wrong with her for it
It sounds like, from this interview, that Shonda feels strongly about the fact that some women simply don’t want kids, and that she’s not going to do an about-face on who Cristina is. I hope she stands by that, because it’s nice to see that reality reflected on TV.
In real life, that would certainly be a dealbreaker for a person who wanted to have kids. For TV where conflict drives the narrative forward, who knows what this means for Owen and Cristina.
That’s fine Shonda has stated her position…and CO is divorced. Done:-) what story is she trying to tell with these 2? I don’t get what Cristina wants from Owen. They don’t want the same things. Can’t she get a sex friend somewhere else.
Ahh, but what about the other option? Owen has a child but Cristina doesn’t. What about the one night stand? She could show up pregnant or with a child that is Owen’s (I’m never sure of this show’s timeline). Cristina doesn’t have to “mother” the child, because, surprise, she’s not married to Owen anymore. My opinion is this storyline was the writers’ entire reason for the divorce, to allow Owen to have a child in his life that Cristina doesn’t have to mother because she’s not Owen’s wife. Cristina stays true to her self, Owen gets his baby, they can still do whatever it is they are doing right now and everybody (except for the fans) are happy!!
Do you think so?
Remember the two weeks Cristina was in Mer’s house before the abortion? What happened to Zola is Mer’s baby?
Cristina won’t escape the inevitability of having children in her life in that case too. And she will make decisions with Owen always taking in count his child. It’s impossible Owen have a child and it doesn’t make part of cristina’s life either. And in that case she won’t be a free children woman anymore.
Moreover, what is the interest to have a relationship where Owen has to get outside of the relationship everything he needs except sex? Even that we saw that is capable of getting it outside too. A little bit more and they will have nothing in common anymore. Where stands the notion of MFEO?
Besides that, he will have the strongest bond (a child) two people can have with a strange woman or even with a bar tart.
Cristina won’t be truthful to herself if she allows children in her life. But I believe that might be in Shonda’s mind.
Sincerely, to Owen feel happy with an arrangement like that, they need to write Owen going mad or make him the opposite of what he is in his core. And lets not talk about Cristina. Everyone who knows well the character knows that she’s not that ‘alternative’. It’ll be a very big change either.
No, you’re going way overboard on Yang’s position. She doesn’t hate kids. She’s not allergic to them. She just doesn’t want to be a mother. She doesn’t want to put her passion for surgery on the backburner for anything and she knows that kids – more than anything -would require that. She could handle having kids in her life – like Zola.
Though the Owen knocking up the gal he had a fling with idea would be an icredibly convenient cop out at least it’s better than BOTH OF THEM DYING IN A PLANE CRASH!!!
Sorry, I have unresolved Mark & Lexie rage…
No bar ho return please…and with Owen’s kid would just push me over the edge.
I feel your rage :-) —about mark/lexie that this. If Cristina stands by her childless motto. She really needs to get her tubes tied for good. I hope she’s changed. Someone remind me again why she came back from Mayo…it can’t be that she wants to be with MerDer or live with Alex? Cristina needs to work through the motion of why she returned and why she asked Owen to give their relationship another try. Owen shouldn’t trust her intentions unless she clearly states what she wants and what she’ll committ to. It’s wise that he insisted on the divorce, thou largely crash lawsuit driven( I hated that the writers threw that logic into the mix), which makes things merky. Owen could do what ever he wants at this point. No marriage no obligations. They’re friends with benefits.
Yeah…they planned that ONS plot back in season 8. I think 9 months has passed? That women seemed pretty premiscus and drunk maybe she won’t remember who the potential daddies were? Anyway it’s totally within the realm of logic for Shonda to use that for ONS to come back…I agree that would be a total cop out. Viewers disappointment ADVISED.
Me too. Mark and Lexie rage may be an understatement…
It’s funny that you brought that up because I could see Shonda going there
So, do a Cougar Town then?
Cougar Town did do this, but so did Private Practice (though Charlotte does consider Mason to be her son/got pregnant with triplets)/
I want some real drama…so they should give it to us. Either bar ho shows up with twins or Cristina gets knocked up with triplets by Owen. Yeah …Hunt is that hat powerful and Yang keeps forgetting to get her tubes tied. All this gives Owen another case of PTSD, he forgets Cristina and what happed with the Bar Ho. Some new doctor shows up and Owen hooks up with her. That should be fun…hey this is not far fetched considering the plane crash plotline lately. Learn from the master Shonda:-)
I think they’re saying Cridina does not want to be a mother at all. U can’t force someone to do something they don’t want, although I thought in season 9 Cristina is suppose to have evolved? If she does not want a child with Owen still, she should not have come back to Seattle or ask Owen to give their relationship another try…its wrong!
Shonda is great at playing with everyone’s emotions. They killed that relationship a while back. Separated, they each cheated on each other, followed by divorce. CO are just sex friends now. Cristina doesn’t want a husband anyway. I’m just stating the facts. I honestly don’t know why they had Cristina move to Minnosota and brought her back…all for what? Did she really change/grow? What did she learn? Just enough to tell Owen that she wants try again? Try what again?Owen doesn’t trust Cristina. It’s matter of time Owen moves on or leaves the show. I still think the actors are great but the plotline makes zero sense.
So excited for the MerDer storyline this season. So much!
And what about Arizona…?
Yes!! what about Callie and Arizona? We want romance between them!!!!
Seriously, why nothing at all about Callie/Arizona?! This is a joke. They’re the best couple on the show.
Like u said, they are the best couple. They have a baby, money, love. Arizona needs to work regaining her confidence in the OR, plus lots of physical therapy.
I’m so completely over the Cristina and Owen drama. Really, all these seasons later, we are still discussing her not wanting kids? We get it! On top of that, there is no way that Cristina and Owen should still be together after she aborted his baby. I have no idea how it’s still going on. She does not want kids and he does. She aborted his child. DEAL BREAKER. IT’S OVER. Stop torturing us.
WORD!! Same drama over and over.
I’m in for the MerDer storyline, so good to see a healthy marriage and two grown ups, and the pregnancy is the cherry on the cake, plus Alex and finding true love.
True love? I’m happy for his character and all but he’s basically settling for a flaky twit because she’s not insane.
And she bought him a couch.
At least someone is getting a happy ending so far… the rest of characters are just plain dysfunctional.
It was her baby, too. Calling it “his” instead of “theirs” is creepy.
She terminated the pregnancy. Obviously she had no emotional ties to this baby at all. He, on the other hand, wanted the baby. Psychologically, he lost HIS baby and she just terminated a pregnancy. Different perspectives. Which is what Shonda is talking about. Owen looks at the situation from a human point of view (wanting to be a father) and Cristina doesn’t. She is a surgeon first so she looks at the situation from a clinical (aborting fetus) and legal (her right to terminate it) point of view. Simple. Why does it have to be creepy? I hate that in all the ‘women’s right’ arguments people forget that men have rights too.
Ya she was totally non emotional about the abortion…
Do you even watch the show?!?
Every single season. Own the DVDs and everything. But what do I know? She was emotional because she Owen wanted the baby and she didn’t and he threw her out of the house. It had nothing to do with the baby itself. Have YOU been watching the show?
You should try watching harder. Anyway you made it pretty clear how you feel in the other post calling Owen’s desire to be a father ‘human’ therefore what Yang is inhuman?
Men can have more rights about this once technology allows them to take over carrying the baby inside their own bodies for 9 months. It’s about bodily autonomy, not some schlock about being “human” or “inhuman.” We get to decide how we use our bodies. There’s a reason why we don’t have mandatory blood donation or organ donation, even though such things could save countless lives.
I can guarantee you that you know women who have had abortions. They are probably not all surgeons, but they were all humans who all had a variety of reasons for why they chose to abort.
Yang, clearly was not marriage material or meant to be a mother. She’s chosen career and career only. Has she changed? That’s a big hurdle to overcome in this relationship. Mer on the other hand tried so hard to have a child and to compensate for the mother( or the lack there of) that she had?
Ana, of course men have rights. But in end of the day it’s the woman who gives the last word bc it’s her body. I understand you feel it’s not fair. But men have other advantages over us. This right that women have should not be dismissed because it was a long battle to achieve it. And I’m not talking about abortion rights, I’m talking about the right to decide. Right that many women despise because for many centuries they were sold the concept of subservience to the male as the best for them. Concept from which is not easy to free ourselves in our society, still. Sadly.
In this particular case his behavior with the skank only came to reinforce that she was right in the first place to not want to jump into motherhood with him. Hurt or not hurt this guy is not trustable.
Then maybe Owen should have volunteered to incubate the fetus. See? Problem over.
Two thinking the same way. This story makes me feel sick. It sucks.
Owen and Christina have a dilemma that cannot be resolved unless one of them relents. Thousands of marriages end because one party wants children and the other doesn’t. It’s time for them to move on and away from each other and for Shonda to be done with this story.
Thank you for saying this and I’m agreeing with you. Divorced!!! OVER! Is there another word for OVER. But they keep seeing each other and sneaking around in the on-call room. Looks not completely over!
“We’ve been watching the chemistry between them and building things.”
Really? Cause what I’ve seen so far is a VERY immature, annoying girl who acts more like his sister than any potential love interest. I’d find it very hard to believe that Alex could fall for someone like that.
Sooo agree! I cannot be sold on this idea of an Alex/Jo romantic connection. She DOES look and act more like his little sister. If Alex is going to grow up he needs to find someone who is age appropriate and has a certain level of wisdom and maturity. He needs that. Jo, although I like her as an intern, is not the right match for Alex.
Precisely. I hope that she has time to reconsider.
Poor Alex has always been unlucky with love. Don’t know what to say about him and Jo. Definitely not Joe. Maybe they should bring in a new doctor or a new intern…need a better actress.
What’s left for Owen and Cristina to talk about (per the baby issue)? She doesn’t want one, and he needs to deal with that or go find someone who does.
As for Alex and Jo… blerg. I love Alex and want him to find love and be happy, just not with her. The chemistry has been fabricated from the get-go. And the “slow-moving” is because they’re shoving Jo down our throats. I know it’s inevitable but that doesn’t mean I have to like it. lol
Shonda Rhimes. If you are reading this or if Ausiello is telling you about it. I am very much against this whole Wilson and Alex thing you got going. Leave them as friends and lets move on. Can he fall in love with someone else, or not fall in love at all? Either way is fine, as long as the two of them together is not your endgame. I’m not going to make empty threats to stop watching if you hook them up, because let’s be real, I’m going to keep watching. I love everything you’ve put on television so far, except that doctors-in-the-jungle show. I mean come on. I even found room in my heart for Ghost Denny. But seriously, I will hate every second of them together. I will be so mad at you. That may not seem like a real consequence, but still. Consider the reality that they are not right for each other in that way. Can that be okay? Thank you for your consideration.
Haha I laughed out loud reading this. I would be ok with Shonda putting Wilson and Alex together if she’d stop killing off cast members. Hear that, Shonda? STOP KILLING OFF CHARACTERS.
Jungle Greys was awful.
Yes, OK, well said, BUT DENNY WAS NEVER A GHOST. Believe me, there are plenty of things to find fault with in GA other than something that never happened.
Sometimes we call something by its common definer even if that’s not quite what it is, like if I called someone an ass even though they aren’t exactly a donkey.
People are dumb. That’s why they keep referring to Ghost!Denny when he was actually a hallucination. It’s just stupidity.
Maybe the show is just one big hallucination of Ghost Denny.
It really is…You’re right on!
Denny may not have been real but Izzy’s orgasms were and isn’t that what really matters?
Agreed 100% with everything. I too will continue to watch but i will be cringing every time they are together. The chemistry there is not organic. It’s contrived at best. Trying to make something out of nothing.
I totally agree. It’s nice that Alex has a buddy but that’s as much chemistry as I’m feeling at this point. Alex needs/deserves a strong woman. Jo doesn’t seem strong to me at all, and she does not remind me of Izzie. I don’t see where people see that, but to each his own.
Please no Alex/Jo. She’s so whiny and irritating, I can’t see him actually settling down with her. Plus she’s an intern! Alex should get with someone who already has an established career or is at the same level he is imo. Plus, am I the only one who thinks she looks like a poor man’s Izzie?
yeah,because nobody ever was happy with their intern *cough*Meredith*cough*Heck,Callie married one for awhile,and Burke nearly did too.Sloan almost married a Resident who was like a decade younger.
^ THIS!
LOVE Grey’s Anatomy Drama :)
Oh please did anyone actually believe that McBaby wouldn’t be born just fine? Of course it will be. Twins probably, named Mark and Lexie, natch.
We want Calzona news! Grey’s is too much about those new annoying interns lately. They’re just taking up precious screen time. I don’t care about them at all.
based on this article, Owen is supposed to have to deal with Cristina not wanting kids, but Cristina doesnt have to deal with the fact that she is in love with a man that wants them.
so, according to Shonda Rhimes, a woman that is a genius a) cannot care about anybody else than herself , b) any man that have the balls to fall in love with her needs to deal with whatever she wants and c) such woman have absolutely no other responsibility but doing what she wants not considering anybody else’ s feelings.
Cristina character is being reduced to a joke once again. So sad that a powerful woman needs to be selfish and never grow up ….
I am not oppose to having Cristina not wanting kids, the way is managed is what is doing a huge disservice to all women – like myself – that consider that maternity is not for her.
I agree. There is no problem with her not wanting kids. But she committed to a marriage and refused to even open up to the option of having children. She refused to even consider Owen’s side of things and to acknowledge his wants in their relationship.
I always thought their relationship was messed up. They got married way too fast while she was going through PTSD after the shooting. That was the first sign that the relationship was doomed for me.
Isn’t Owen doing the same thing to her though? Acting like she’ll “change her mind?” That’s not really acknowledging what she wants. And considering she’s be the one carrying the baby, I think that’s an important part. I do agree that they should have never gotten married without discussing this issue, in the real world the kids things would be something you’d discuss before even getting engaged. But in the real world, you don’t have doctors getting married while in the middle of dealing with PTSD
Completely agree. I don’t know why Cristina is the only one to blame.
Isn’t it always that way? The woman is the one everyone expects to change — men just get to putter along doing their thing, while the woman is expected to adapt to his needs, wants and whims.
WORD Kathy Agel , and if they have the gall of not doing it… Christ… the other women beat the crap out of them and their husbands sleep with other women to tame them.
I think its not about how he tried to change her mind, its the fact that he wanted her to “at least consider” the option but she completely dismissed it. She kept saying no over and over and acted like the issue was mute and that what she wanted is the way it was going to be and her “husband” can’t have a say at all. And all the while she was forgetting that she’s in a marriage and had she never wanted children, she should have stated it before getting married. But again like you said, Cristina/Owen aren’t real people.
I think either they must have new writers on greys or the writers just don’t care, but Cristina very clearly told Owen during season six that she didn’t want kids. So apparently love made him overlook this fact. Then last season during the couples counseling Owen said she never told him and Cristina said it never came up. It’s like the season six conversation never took place. Great for drama but it makes both of them look like idiots and discounts the rabid fans who watch these things and catch these mistakes.
Cristina made it clear that she didn’t want a child before the wedding, but Owen thought she would “grow up” and change her mind. He has zero respect for her.
Nah, she should just have his child otherwise Saint Owen might strangle her … again.
She did state it. And his way requires her to give 100% to him, there’s no being halfway pregnant or halfway adopting or raising a child.
To the commenter below who said Cristina very clearly said in Season 6 she never wanted kids, no she didn’t. She made an offhand comment to Teddy during an operation: “have you met me?” – CO never had a conversation about it. Nothing wrong with C not wanting kids, but then she should have gotten her tubes tied knowing birth control was problematic for her. Which to me means she was not 100% sure. And when married, no conversation should be off limits — C’s not a delicate little flower to be protected from difficult conversation.
In that same episode in Season Six, when she came home Owen was fixing dinner and brought the subject up. Then he had a ptsd moment when his sausages were burning and scared the daylights out of Cristina. End of conversation before it ever really got started. Then again in Season Seven when Cristina told Owen she was so happy he wasn’t trying to get her knocked up. They finally had a brief conversation but to me, each seemed to blow the other off. I LOVE them as a couple. They have tremendous on-camera chemistry, but I really don’t know how Shonda is going to pull this one off with any sort of happy ending. She has a clear idea of where this is heading and we’re all along for the ride. She said once that she generally writes the season finale pretty much in her head and works her way back to the beginning to move forward to get to her desired ending. I just really hope that the sleazy woman that he hooked up with doesn’t come back with a baby, but I felt last season that this was where we were headed.
Karen, that comment in a OR with him Teddy and Callie listening it, didn’t leave no doubts in him that she didn’t want children so much so that he and Teddy exchanged a worried look. Other proof that he knew beyond doubt, was his horrible speech towards her that when grown up and down the line she would want to be a mother. He knew but preferred to overlook and try later to bend her to his will. He Knew it and married her anyway so now he must be a grown up and suck it up.
In the other hand, he never stated or made it clear that he wanted kids, ever. And now we know why. It was not necessary. In due time she would be bent on the direction that better suited him, independently of that be good for her or not. He never accepted her the way she is and punished her because she didn’t submit herself to him. People who refuse to see one single fault in him , can argue as much as they want but that was what he did.
When she became pregnant what he should have expected was she would not keep the baby, not the opposite. But as the selfcentered moron he was he didn’t . Failing in showing he really knew her and wanted the best for her, and contributed the most for the downfall of the marriage.
They’re divorced now! There are no more obligations. We don’t have to blame either character anymore. They are free to choose ( do or don’t do). Be in love, out of love. They’re like the new Carrie and Big from Sex in the City. Expect them to NOT Be “Exclusive” in going forward.
A,
LoL…fake people, fake relationship…and why do we care and keep arguing about them:-) and you’re right. She dismissed his place in the marriage and he has every right to be mad. Thank goodness they’re divorced. Their story is such a broken record.The writing room must be out of material to keep rehashing the baby issue… looks like Shonda still doesn’t want to break them up entirely but keep humiliate these characters to get thru the rest of the season. Note to the writers, people like closure. It demonstrates a sense of purpose and intelligence.
Not every marriage NEEDS children. Mine has done just fine for 33 years without them, thank you very much (I love kids — but I like to be able to give them back to their parents). Cristina has a goal, and children aren’t included. If Owen can’t accept that, he needs to leave her alone (and my husband and I wish he would, because neither of us can stand him).
I’m disagreeing with u at all… clearly they’re not good for each other. But Cristina asked Owen to try again. She re initiated this…why would she do that? She knows what he wants and that they don’t fit. Is she being stupid or is she trying to bend him her way. It’s water under the bridge now, the divorce is a done deal.
U said it…I second all your A, B, Cs and that I don’t like how Shonda is portraying a powerful and smart woman like Cristina. I know other powerful women who have a successful careers, juggles family and are considerate to their loves ones and others. Its not easy to do and be all that…that’s what makes them powerful and special. I hate to think that after all she’s been through, Cristina is becoming a joke to us. Hunt needs to move on.
Happy to hear that Cristina is not going to give in to having kids, she has never wanted them and for her to have a change of heart seems unlikely, its time to break them up for good and hook Owen up with Constance.
He should at the very least date other people and make it certain to Cristina that he needs more than she’s willing to give. Thus nonexclusivity…
Way to much Mer/Der this season. Yawn. Don’t like Meredith as a character, or Ellen Pomeo (especially) as an actress. Don’t care about them as a couple. Grown-up or otherwise.
I will admit that in this past episode Meredith annoyed the crap out of me. Hormones were no excuse, she was horrible. Not that she ever didn’t annoy but there have been periods where she’s been more tolerable. Derek is just an ass all around
As a fan who has watched GA since season one, ep one, I am loving Meredith and Derek this season. Both of them have SLs that don’t always have to do with each other, plus watching them grow and have a sister or brother for Zola has been nice change from all the seasons of drama for them. I’ve liked where Callie and Arizona have been going after what they have been through and have found Owen’s character to be really interesting this year as he deals with handling the fact that the plane crash was party due to him trying to keep the hospital in order, as well as Cristina who has had a lot of growth this season. More often than not, I have really been enjoying both the drama and the couples SLs this year. Nice to see Alex will be getting a permanent romance story too :)
This is called GREY’S anatomy… so i’m ok with them showing a lot of meredith and derek…
The show would never exist without her….I have no problem with Mer/Ellen but I could use a little less of douchey Derek.
Since the consensus seems to be that Meredith walks on water and she’s the only reason people still watch the show, I will say that for me, the less Mer and especially Der, the better. I don’t dislike them and I totally love the McHouse and the new McBaby, but they are not the reason I watch. Having said that, I thought she was kind of funny in the last epi but Ellen is not the best at delivering comedy, at all. She misses some of the cues big time and the delivery falls flat. Jesse has the same problem. He tries but cannot deliver the funny. Bailey, Callie and Cristina do the best the with comedy.
well don’t watch then, they are the core front and center couple and always will be.
They call it GREY’S Anatomy for a reason, you know….
Loving all the MerDer. The only reason I still watch. The more the better.
I agree! I think Ellen is a fantastic actress, who doesn’t get enough credit for her talent. And I think Derek’s completely justified in his actions right now. Loving all the relationship story lines.
Looks like MerDer baby will be okay :) Can’t wait to see Mer in labor and giving birth!
Cristina and Owen, I’m not a huge fan of them but I’m curious to see how the writers are going to deal with the baby situation, Cris doesn’t want kids, he wants them, how can they be a couple if they don’t want the same things ? We’ll see how it goes
And Callie / Arizona, for me, they’re not lead characters, so I’m not interested in Calzona news, they’e not a big part of the show
Funny, all I care about is the Calzona news. I started and continue to watch because of Callie.
Calzona are, in fact, a huge part of the show.
If Cristina get all gooey eyed and has kids that’ll be it…I’ll be done with Grey’s. I’m tired of tv portraying childfree individuals as selfish shrews.
Excellent…if Cristina gets all gushy with a kid then I’ll start watching Grey’s again. Arizona did it why not her. Mer is loving being a mom. I’m looking forward to her character becoming more human. I think it’ll help her become a better doctor,
NEWSFLASH – people who do not want kids are still human.
Is that REALLY such a strange concept?
No…I don’t have issues with people who don’t want children. It’s a personal choice. I just prefer to see Cristina get all gushy with a kid…is that a crime. News flash, get over your own insecurity.
Not all women want children
I’m happy for them:-) it’s a free country. Have a kid or don’t. None of my business!!! In the fictional world, I ‘d like see Cristina become a mom. I think it’ll be hilarious and comedic.
“And there’s nothing wrong with not wanting children. I love babies. If you gave me 40 babies I’d be thrilled. But this idea that if you place a baby in a woman’s arms and she’s going to melt is not true for some people.”
Preach it Shonda!!! SO HAPPY She confirmed that Cristina is not going to change her mind about having kids. I’m beyond ecstatic! The whole thing of Owen thinks everyone wants to have kids disturbs me in big way. He should grow up.
Yeah, who does Owen think he is? Just because he married the woman he loves and wanted to have a family… That is so 1954…
Not Owen’s fault if his ptsd makes him go deaf every single time she tells him she does not want kids and gives a passionate speech explaining why.
Oh man, if the bar ho shows up with Owen’s kid that would really push me over the edge. Whatever …CO is screwed anyway, I can’t see any good coming out of this, perhaps some good comedy if they never get some screen time again soon.
He’s like most people, just looking to build a life with a woman he loves. He was in denial thinking Cristina will change her mind ( some women would, but probably not Yang) i think he’s clear now…divorced. I don’t think he’s a bad guy, just a FOOL in love.
I would have been sooo happy if the person on the show who had most clearly and passionately stated her long held desire to never have kids — Arizona — had stuck to her guns. Arizona’s “I’m not broken” speech was great. Have to say, Cristina becoming the Zola Baby Whisperer last season was so out of character and no one wants to see that gooeyness again. However, Cristina keeping baby with love of her life would have been a possible logical reaction to an unexpected challenge for her. What is stranger is that Shonda originally wrote C/O having baby at end of Season 5, then changed her mind. Always wondered why Cristina, if she were so certain about kids, never had her tube tied.
Sounds logical to me. For someone who’s so adament to be childless, she should’ve had her tubes tied long time ago and she’s a MD/PHD! If she truly loves Owen and want to make their relationship work this go around or has changed at all, she will have his kid or else shonda just wasted 12 episodes to tell the story for what? Why bother bringing Cristina back from Mayo at all?
Because often, in the real world, doctors are hesitant to perform this procedure on women who don’t already have kids/a history of pregnancies. The whole “major medical procedure” thing. Plus, she would have missed school and work, which I can’t see her doing when simply taking precautions would have the same affect.
Obviousely it makes no sense right….I agree it’s difficult for an intelligent viewer to rationalize the storyline.
I think he’s over it…they’re divorced…he push it…..Freedom! They’re not exclusive. This is what Shonda preached.
Cristina alone = I love the character. Cristina/Owen=enough already!
I can’t deal with this same drama over and over. If they want to keep them together then there has to be a give and take. She needs to open up to the idea of having children because its not all about her.
However, if Shonda is sticking to her word about Cristina not changing her mind about kids, then they need to break them up for good. I vote for this option!
I really can’t see them being together because if they make Owen give up about not want kids, then how is that fair that he has to make all the sacrifices and she can’t do the same.
Or he needs to open up to a life without a child because it’s not all about him.
Giving up the idea of not having children just like that is not as easy as you make it sound just like not wanting kids is not an easy decision to change.
Hence, why I said, and by the looks of several other comments too, they should break them up because it isn’t fair for Owen to make sacrifices while Cristina doesn’t and vice versa.
Yet your posts just blame Christina.
clearly you just glanced over the part where I said “vice versa” and read what you wanted to read.
He needs to run away from Cristina. He tried and she lured him back. Owen really needs to stick to his guns and stay strong.
My vote as well. Enough is enough. Break them up for good if Cristina wants to remain childless. This time make her get her tubes tied. B/C many of us don’t want to hear about it anymore. This is beyond the debate of women’s right to choose. Please also make Owen move on…if Cristina doesn’t respect Owen enough to consider his needs, he needs to take it like a man and get over it. I’m so happy that he got the divorce. He is free legally to move on.
Christina needs to let Owen go, so he can find what he needs and wants with someone else
Owen can also leave her to find what he wants with someone else. She’s not holding him captive.
They are both idiots and fictional. Looks like they just using each other now.
Maybe Owen could be a big brother. I think they still have those organizations. Its definitely not perfect but could maybe work. I’ve always been worried since last season that his hook up would produce a baby and emotionally that would be hard for Cristina to take I’d think. I’ve been there and it sucks. Big time. I think that Crowen has had crap for half the time they’ve been together and they deserve something wondrous and happy but I don’t know how they can get it. I’m just not ready for them to be over.
No…CO’s divorced. Let it be. Cristina doesn’t want a husband or a child. She has a career to focus on the rest of her life until she can’t cut anymore. She will move in with Mer in her old age. Owen has been going thru a dry spell since the plane crash…so Cristina jumped him and he can’t resist for the time being. Just let them be noncommittal. He knows what Cristina is…he has no expectations. Who would! Plus either Cristina or Owen are likely to have another attack of PTSD or be in another shooting incident or disasterous situation. One of them may die or have amnesia…they’ll forget each other. So much for soul mates!
Anyone else feel like Wilson is Izzie? The writing for the two characters is basically the same. Even their backgrounds are very similar. At this point the only difference I see is that she not blonde, she doesn’t have cancer (YET), and she never cut an LVAD wire.
Yeah she definitely comes across as an Izzie-Lite to me. Which could explain why Alex is attracted to her.
Lizzie was a better actress. Jo is just annoying.
Alex and Wilson have zero chemistry – zero! Please give him a grown up that brings the best out in him, not a bad ripoff of Izzie. We don’t need another “hard knock life” Izzie 2.0
So over C/O She doesn’t want kids and he does. End it like grown ups and move on. They have sexual passion but NOT a real relationship based on mutual respect, interests, and goals in life.
Mer/Der saving the hospital? Der had the chance to set the fiscal house right when he was chief and walked away. Mer cost the hospital its clincal trials (which does serious damage to their ranking as a top hospital and their ability to bring in grant money/hits the bottom line hard) – what every happened to the pursuit of the law suit to find out what really caused the plane to go down/prevent this from happening to others? Instead we get the hospital picking up the tab and the charter company walking away unscathed?
Where is the discussion of Callie and Arizona? Arizona is the one and only doc to survive with permenant disability – so what now? they just forget about her? Are we ever going to see C/A actually have intimate relations on par with the other couples on this show?
I get the whole not wanting kids thing – I don’t have them myself – but for a woman who is so adamantly against having children and that she’ll never want them, why hasn’t she done something permanent to prevent that? For a woman who so clearly knows what she wants – and what she doesn’t want – and is a brilliant doctor there is no excuse for her character to have gotten pregnant TWICE over the course of the show.
GREAT POINT!! I’ve always wondered that myself. Make it a storyline episode. Cristina has a tubal ligation secretly and then has to tell Owen that no matter what he does, she’ll never have children and she did something permanent so there’d be no more surprises.
I don’t think she needs to do it secretly. She should be able to do it openly and she shouldn’t hide. They need to talk about this and put it to rest one way or another.
Might as well.
Why should she hide it? She’s a grown woman — she gets to make the decisions about her body.
Except to give the writers a way to create drama? If everyone behaved rationally on TV, there’d be no story. :)
so true
Yeah. and tying her tubes wouldn’t necessarily mean the end of the kids issue. Owen still wants kids and other options would probably be brought up such as adoption and then you will pretty much have the same baby drama. The underlying issue is still there.
Agree. Find it amusing that Rhimes continues to tout Cristina as a genius doctor when the woman, who doesn’t want kids, has been pregnant twice. I’d call her stupid.
I love the Cristina character in many ways. But I don’t like how she is being portrayed as someone who is in a cable of change, growth and commitment. I would like it better if she believes she can have it all…
Wtf? Maybe she doesn’t want to “have it all”. What’s so hard to understand? SHE DOESN’T WANT KIDS. Doesn’t mean she can’t or hasn’t grown.
keep the WTF to yourself. Your rudeness reflects who u are!
I’m saying this again…why did she ask Owen she wants to give their relationship another try ? If she has grown, she wouldn’t be asking, knowing full well that he wants a family whiile she still doesn’t and you’re just as clueless for commenting the way you did.
You have a really valid point there, and one that never occurred to me. Cristina definitely knows how Owen feels about children and she STILL wanted to try again. She didn’t say that I want to try again but I want you to change your mind. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out and I’m sure that people are going to be ticked regardless of the direction of the storyline.
Are u just as rude and classless as u seem online. To answer your question, Cristina just want a cookie. No kid, no husband…her life is about the cookie and that makes her really grown up:-)
And no form of birth control is 100% effective, except for sterilization — no matter what your IQ is.
You got that right. Cristina is either not sure of what she wants or really stupid. Only Shonda can answer that question. I recall CO had some kind of therapy session to address Cristina’s childless motives…I wonder if Shonda will explore that again?
You’re so right.
Totally stupid! U nailed it.