20:31, 31st Mar 2009
Dan van Ohllus:
Works ingame and performs well.
Looks nice and is a great addition to the orc race.

i still think it needs some work.

Well, it's based on the Blademaster model, so the head and leg sizes are actually those of the official model.

what animations?

its the blademaster's anims with a DH attack anim.

I liked the other hook better, but it's your design. Keep it up. You're making very good WCII model edits.

the picture confuses me.

The left picture has a right shoulderpad, but the right picture has a left shoulderpad. How did you even take that picture?

or does he have both shoulderpads just i cant see it?

I think a more blade-like left-arm (i.e. Korgath Bladefist) would look much better. The hook is somewhat Abomination-y (probably because you got it from there. ). Like a short-sword, or a chipped axe-head or something.

Anyway, otherwise it looks cool.

Just_Spectating said:

the picture confuses me.

The left picture has a right shoulderpad, but the right picture has a left shoulderpad. How did you even take that picture?

or does he have both shoulderpads just i cant see it?

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He has shoulderpads on both shoulders.

Kyrbi0 said:

I think a more blade-like left-arm (i.e. Korgath Bladefist) would look much better. The hook is somewhat Abomination-y (probably because you got it from there. ). Like a short-sword, or a chipped axe-head or something.

Anyway, otherwise it looks cool.

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Actually I originally made it like a blade until I saw the artwork of him. It's clearly shown as a hook.

Yay another WC2 orc was made keep up thew good work

Tauer said:

Actually I originally made it like a blade until I saw the artwork of him. It's clearly shown as a hook.

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Strange... Well, seems to be proper artwork (i.e. from the manual, not just a comic or fan-art), so meh. I'm probaby thinking of the Wc2 sprite.

Haha, yeah. Good ol' WC2 where all the Heroes look exactly like their unit counterparts. Lol.

1. the shoulder plates texture does not fit that well( 2 much quality difference & the style of it)
2.you have wrapping problems at the chest
3. your hook misses some pieces(check the screenshot)


Oh and I think you should scale the model ~ to beasmaster proportions to make it look more like the art work

Sexier and sexier. Keep up the good work!

Looks good, although he has a blue line along his chest, caused by bad uv mapping.

Make some real changes from now on ...
Really ... the models you make only look a bit like the Concepts ...
Also, Bad wraps kill. You should spend more time on the wrapping, seriously.

It sounds to me like you want me to do something I can't do. I gotta start somewhere? Or perhaps you expect me to go strait to scratch modeling without any experience at all? Everybody else who's commented has had something constructive to say to actually help me with getting better at modeling. The only thing you've done is flame my models.
Bah, keep your mouth shut unless you have something useful or constructive to say.
Seriously, I don't wanna hear it.

UPDATE: Gave him a complete makeover. Looks a lot better IMO. This is the first model where I've tried to focus a bit more on the skin so feedback on that would be nice. I usually work with effects and photoediting in PS so I don't have much experience with freehand like this.

Hey Tauer ! Can you make a green orc who rides a Red dragon ? Can you create a Knight like wc2 and Lothar ? Please

Tauer said:

UPDATE: Gave him a complete makeover.

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No Rly? I opened the page and was like "WTHeck, that's not the Blademaster w/ Abom hook..."

Lookin' much better, more custom and stuff. I can't download here, so I couldn't say how it looks f'real, or the texture.

the old version has looked better i liked the blademaster anims

I love this new version, awesome!
4/5

JokeMaster said:

the old version has looked better i liked the blademaster anims

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You think?
Hmm, I think this one looks way more like the artwork...

I tried as best I could to make the skin look like that picture too.

Very good; I think it looks a lot like the art work. Besides, its impossible to make it look a 100% like the art work, but I say this looks 90% like it. I wonder why they haven't approved any of your models yet because I think their great. I heard that your considering making grunt models for each clan, well if you are just remember that they all have red eyes with the exception of the Frostwolf Clan.

Nice 4/5

very nice. imma give this a 5 because the 1st model everyone said what needed to be done and no longer than a day later you release a brand new version.. keep up the hard work.. 5* +rep

Nice model man 4/5

Thanks
I don't know why, but for some reason the picture won't change for me.

I didnt see previous version, but I like this one. I would only advise to add glow at weapons, just like other heroes have. And I dont like pads - they are not looking orcish, more like human pads. Maybe try adding some spikes like you did at Kilrog's model, or something? Anyway, model is very cool. And dont even care for flaming, there are just some people over there that cannot value that someone spend time and shared his work with them. F*ck them

Amaruak said:

I didnt see previous version, but I like this one. I would only advise to add glow at weapons, just like other heroes have. And I dont like pads - they are not looking orcish, more like human pads. Maybe try adding some spikes like you did at Kilrog's model, or something? Anyway, model is very cool. And dont even care for flaming, there are just some people over there that cannot value that someone spend time and shared his work with them. F*ck them

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Hehe thanks dude
Yeah, you're right. The shoulderpads do look a bit too human. Maybe it has to do with the fact they it's Arthas's shoulders hehe. Anyway, I might add some spikes later.

Better Version, could use some sexy tatoos

Wooooooohhhhoooooo!!!!

GREAT! I love your Work! I've been working over 1 Jahr on a Orc-Clan-Map with ALL the orcish Warchiefs from the 2nd War and there still some Models and Icons missing. What you did lately is EXACTLY what I Need(ed) so pleese keep it up!!!
And if possiple make (or find someone to make) fitting Icons for your models.

Are you going to make some more?
For me?
PLEEEEZEEE!!!

(e.g.: Blackhand the Destroyer like in WC1, Zuluhed the Whacked, Necros Skullcrusher, Tagar Spinebreaker [maby as Fel-Orc] or Fenris Wolfbrother)

looks alrite not to good

There already is Blackhand the Destroyer model, and others too I guess.
http://realmdesign.samods.org/Previews/BlackhandPreview.jpg Look there, maybe ask them for these models?

That is Kargath, not Blackhand.

Also, they're a full-on total conversion; it's doubtful him or anyone else can just "get" those models before they release them. That's kind of the whole point with making and releasing models here; regular Wc3-type models that people can use in their projects now.

Yes, I doubt that you can get models from DoC before it's done. But there used to be another Blackhand model here on the site I just can't find it.

GREAT! I love your Work! I've been working over 1 Jahr on a Orc-Clan-Map with ALL the orcish Warchiefs from the 2nd War and there still some Models and Icons missing. What you did lately is EXACTLY what I Need(ed) so pleese keep it up!!!
And if possiple make (or find someone to make) fitting Icons for your models.

Are you going to make some more?
For me?
PLEEEEZEEE!!!

(e.g.: Blackhand the Destroyer like in WC1, Zuluhed the Whacked, Necros Skullcrusher, Tagar Spinebreaker [maby as Fel-Orc] or Fenris Wolfbrother)

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Wow, thanks. I might make those later on. Right now I'm working on my Grunts. About the icons, I could easily make some but I don't think they would be approved here since there's a rule about freehand or something when it comes to skinning. I'm not the big skinner so I don't really know so much about it.

Ok, one after the other:

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Amaruak said:

There already is Blackhand the Destroyer model, and others too I guess. [...] Look there, maybe ask them for these models?

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I already have, but the maker of the model (urkdrengi if I remember right) never answer me and hasn't shown his face on this site for years. And for some unknown reson the model of Blackhand has gone, I only found the Icon...

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Kyrbi0 said:

That is Kargath, not Blackhand.

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We know it's not Blackhand on the picture above. Read my previous posts.

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Tauer said:

Yes, I doubt that you can get models from DoC before it's done. But there used to be another Blackhand model here on the site I just can't find it.

Wow, thanks. I might make those later on. Right now I'm working on my Grunts. About the icons, I could easily make some but I don't think they would be approved here since there's a rule about freehand or something when it comes to skinning. I'm not the big skinner so I don't really know so much about it.

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Yes I know. It is the model I'm already using on my map but I'd rather like the one on foot with the "Badass-Axe", because it is more like Blackhand is discribed (mean, brutal, muscular, frightening...).

Is it possible to ask someone to "skin" the icons for your models? They're so great it would be such a waste if they couldn't unfold their full potential as a playable Orc-Hero just because the lack of an icon...

Alfredo said:

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Yes I know. It is the model I'm already using on my map but I'd rather like the one on foot with the "Badass-Axe", because it is more like Blackhand is discribed (mean, brutal, muscular, frightening...)

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That isn't the one I'm talking about. There used to be a Blackhand model that looked very much like the artwork.

Well, there is this:
BlackhandWarlord - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

Calm down people, he's already got a big list of models that he wants to make. Let him make what he wants. As for myself, I have no request because Tauer already made Kilrogg Deadeye and Bladefist. I was surprised to see them when I logged in. Nobody has ever made a Deadeye or Bladefist model so, I supposed that they were forgotten heroes in the Warcraft universe. It was good to see that somebody remembered them. Thanks for the models, Tauer.

Awsome model!I like his weapon hand^^

In case if your going to update this model or the beard in particular; Kargath's beard was blond in his Warcraft 2 icon, but it doesn't really matter. I still think it looks good, but yeah; not your best work.

Linaze said:

Well, there is this:
BlackhandWarlord - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

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THIS is the model I'm using on my map already! Like I said...

And the one Taur talked about has disappeard from this site of mysterious reasons a long time ago...
...what a pitty

Besides there already is a Kilrogg Deadeye made by someone else (although it has't been uploaded to this site yet I think). That one is based on the Grom Hellsream model but it fits a little more to the artwork I suppose (Now, where the **** did I put that Link...?).

Link found:
http://hos.samods.org/images/model_killrogg.jpg

I like the Kilrogg that Tauer made. It looks more like the artwork to me and it just looks cleaner if that makes any sense. The other one looks a bit rushed.

i suggets you to add the blademaster's ears to make him look more like is WC2 manual counterpart and will be perfect!

I see you thought about making him different from the BM-like model you did before. This one looks better like Korgath. Nice work! ^^

Can you make another model of Kargath but the one of World of Warcraft?? The one of WoW is exactly the same but red skin

Looks very amazing!

he is a fel orc not a regular orc but still nice work