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У Нелис 3 миллиона с копейками хп.
Так же как и в квесте Убийца Кредо идет проверка на "прямые руки" у роги.
Бой состоит из трех фаз:

1 фаза

Абилки босса:
Наделенная чародейством броня
Наделенное чародейством оружие
Чародейские стрелы
Исступление
Касты надо сбивать, не стесняться.

2 фаза

С началом фазы произойдет перемещение в другую комнату, в которой будет находиться Нелис с некими устройствами. Основная задача на этой фазе - своевременное и быстрое отключение устройств. Не забывайте по пути выбираться из войдов:

Чародейский щит
Мощь тайной магии
Чародейское разрушение

3 фаза

Почти такая же, как и первая, за исключением того, что надо отходить от Пылающие тени которые кидает Нелис.

Завалили босса? Не забудьте его полутать и получить Фиал с кровью черного дракона.

Хочется добавить, что все средства хороши, используйте все, что может сбивать касты.

Удачи!

Комментарий от 876058

Дойти до босса сложнее, чем собственно убить его

Комментарий от 575937

Босс имеет 3кк здоровья, 1кк = одна фаза.

Бой делется на 3 фазы, между которыми есть переходная фаза, с каждой фазой босс получает доп. абилку.

На переходной фазе нужно отключить маячки которые расположенны на против вас, при этом не попадая в взрывы (достаточно бежать между ними), лучше всего включить Спринт.

На 1й фазе босс имеет 3 абилки:

1. Чародейские стрелы - Сбивать Пинком.

2. Усиление оружия - Использовать либо Стан и Дизрам, либо Парализующий удар если все на кд.

3. Иступление - Снимать Уколом обязательно, т.к. потом на нее вешается дебаф на +50% к получаемому урону.

На 2й фазе добавляется абилка щит которую нужно сбивать ослаблением доспеха.

Ну и на 3й фазе появляется еще одна абилка Пылаюшие тени - на вас вешается дебаф, и там где вы пробежите остается лужа, как только она начинает кастовать, двигайтесь в сторону стенки и бегите акуратно по стенки да бы не "засрать" всю площадку. (Вспоминаем ланатель и рагнароса 2ю переходну).

Так же не забывайте про:
Ускользание которое можно использовать когда у вас стан и дизрам на кд.
Ослепление он даст вам минуту на востановление части абилок и можно полечится бинтами.
Обязательно держите на себе постоянно Хилку.

Не судите строго, это так сказать мой первый мини-гайд, Кровьзакровь-Седогрив.

Комментарий от 822787

Дааа убивается очень просто, по сравнению с Кредо, абилки у босса оч простые тупо жать вовремя!
а дойти до босса может помешать второй рога,как мне например....

Комментарий от Zlonamerenaya

с 5 раза дошел до босса - с 3 пула убил... возможно я не так пряморук как все вышеотписавшиеся, но убил - полутал - получил 406 пухи -___-

стан по максимуму, дизарм по кд , иступление уколом, щит снятием брони , в луже не стоим, в войды не попадаем ... немного внимательности и кил зем олл

всем удачи)

Комментарий от Lorri

Дойти до босса не так уж и сложно - главное, не ломиться напрямую.

До входа в Каражан доходим по правой стороне, за домами.

Потом так же за домами подходим ко входу в погреб (если считать от Каражана - 2-й по счету спуск).

Большого драгонкина над входом сапаем.

На самом входе стоят несколько мобов, туда не суемся, стоим на противоположной стороне у сапнутого драгонкина и ждем, когда из подземелья поднимется патрульный.

Кидаем дистракт, чтобы отвлечь патрульного и встречающую делегацию у входа. Чтобы не рисковать, имхо, перед самым прыжком вниз лучше заюзать ваниш.

На всякий случай перед этим квестом можно поставить большой глиф, продлевающий ваниш на 2 секунды, но и без него у мен не было особых проблем.

Попадаем в подземелье и бежим строго по центру вперед до большой комнаты, по пути сапая патрульных.

В центре большой комнаты есть что-то типа канавы, по которой разгуливает только большой драгонкин. Сапаем и ждем.

Нам нужно направо, в проход с обвалившейся деревянной балкой.

Либо ждем отката ваниша, пересапывая большого, если хотим перестраховаться, либо просто кидаем в удобный момент дистракт и проходим.

На балке можно какое-то время отдохнуть, собраться мыслями и подаждать отката ваниша, если он на КД.
Дальше нам главное попасть в большой холл, откуда, даже если мы случайно захватим самых последних мобов перед ним, нас уже не выдернут, т.к. при пересечении границы комнаты следилка снимается.

Поэтому сапаем самого ближнего к балке гуманоида, чтобы не мельтешил, ждем удобного момента (стоя у правой стенки, которой мы будем держаться), чтобы следующие мобы были у левой, кидаем дистракт, прожимаем спринт (инженерам очень советую воспользоваться инженерской ускорялкой) и сразу же - ваниш.

Повторюсь - зацепить самых последних мобов не страшно, в комнате следилка уже не работает, поэтому если-таки крайтие на вас заагрились, спокойно дохнем, после чего бежим с кладбища и ресаемся.

В целом, этот квест куда проще гилнеасовского, поэтому с серьезными затруднениями Вы вря ли столкнетесь.

Удачи)

Комментарий от 673325

Походу я самый криворукий рога из всех кто тут написал дошел до босса со 2-го раза а вот с его килом большие проблемы... 15 трай даже до 2-ой фазы дойти не могу (
P.S Имбо папкам которые кильнули и хотят постебаться идти лесом... Ненавижу pvp ни одного кила на бг досс для меня архи сложный!
А теперь заваливайте минусами... пускай люди которые тоже не могут кильнуть знают что не одиноки!

Комментарий от BainHAMMER

В центре большой комнаты есть что-то типа канавы, по которой разгуливает только большой драгонкин. Сапаем и ждем.

Нам нужно направо, в проход с обвалившейся деревянной балкой.

Либо ждем отката ваниша, пересапывая большого, если хотим перестраховаться, либо просто кидаем в удобный момент дистракт и проходим.

Сабам, как всегда, попроще
Я использовал большие символы исчезновения и спринта, для перестраховки
Тут можно поймать момент когда:
1. метающиеся по большому кругу призванные существа будут далеко
2. призванные существа на маленьком круге прямо по пути к проходу только проскочили
3. Адепт (или маг), ходящий вдоль прохода с балкой уйдет направо
В этот момент, с четким таймингом можно пройти между двумя паками без всяких дистрактов с помощью шага сквозь тень к дракониду, охраняющему нужный проход (ессно сразу его же сап)
Далее сапаем орка, переводим дыхание, ждем призванные существа, бегающие вдоль правой стены и кидаем дистракт к левой, далее жмем спринт, приближаясь к паку мобов перед вами - ваниш. Job's done, ИМХО быстрее некуда) (хотя куда там торопиться ;) )

Комментарий от gsv978

хреново быть криворуким, 10 вайпов, на 2 фазе, 2 раза сдох на 2 переходной

Комментарий от excelsis

Интересно а полутать квест итем могут все кто принимал участие в убийстве, но не в группе ?

Комментарий от kaliostro953

Мой рога - мутик благодарит Lorri за то что облегчил ему путь до босса , единственное могу добавить с балки сапнув ближнего тупо под ванишем рванул на спринте без дистракта - мобы агрятся но уйти успел ...
... теперь по поводу кила самого босса (кстати огромное спасибо PaRaDoX12 за пост - очень помогло) -
бой с Нэлис это тупой зерг со сбитием кастов, при чем СБИТИЕ КАСТА ЭТО ПРИОРИТЕТ - чем меньше она кастанет , тем ближе к вам ваши ножики)
В общем Зелье Толвира - Незаметность - Подлый трюк и понеслось ... Она вам
наделенное чародейством оружие Вы ей чик по почкам(желательно с максимум кп) или Парализующим ударом , ну либо нафик ей оружие
Она вам Чародейские стрелы - Забейте что она женщина. Пендель не стесняемся, ибо сносит паразитка мама не горюй
Она Иступление - кыль у попу укол отравляющий для профилактики
с Щитом думаю проблем не будет - Ослабление и он (точнее она) снова ваш(а)
на третей фазе Пылающие тени - сразу бягим куда нибудь в сторону, но не забываем что в любой момент эта гадюка кастанет , что нибудь , что нужно срочно сбить

на переходках не советую экспериментов с войдами(жрут капец) - тупо спринта хватит на отключение двух столбов

по продлению вашей драгоценной жизни, так же полностью согласен с предыдущим оратором - не забывайте о том что Боевая готовность , Ускользание и Ослепление вам даны не просто так.Кстати советую поставить символ Ослепления : реально поможет если ваше ХП плачевно поползет вниз. В общем как только появится необходимость в отхиле врежте боссу на 4-5 кп и используйте ослепление - у вас будет минута на отхил - бинты и Заживление ран. Не лишним будет взять Легендарное лечебно зелье - ну так на всякий случай).

В общем желаю всем удачи в получении 406 ножичков

Комментарий от Dmitvik

убил боса в "скрытности" в "ликвидации" не получилось.
удачи!

Комментарий от zvero

ВНИМАНИЕ!
Нигде не видел информацию о том, что делать если у вас к примеру 330 Темный самоцвет, а вы на 4 боссе в Душа Дракона. Ребята, прерывать инст не обязательно как только собрали 333, лутайте Скопление элементиевых самоцветов дальше. Но НЕ ОТКРЫВАЙТЕ их. После сдачи 333 Темный самоцвет "лишние" Скопление элементиевых самоцветов останутся и будут использоваться в следующем квесте - Заостряя клыки.

Комментарий от KS4VALIS

Что я могу сказать,квест гораздо проще,чем на Кредо,да и путь к нему на много проще на мой взгляд. Дошёл до нее попытки с 5-й,убил с 1-й.
Всем удачи!
Сарефф,Черный Шрам.

Комментарий от Maniacunknown

Вниманию всем разбойникам!
В связи с обновлением всех талантов и способностей в патче 5.0.4, её щит больше не получается сбивать Ослаблением доспеха, сколько раз бы ты не бил, поэтому 20 секунд приходится стоять и бить ей по 20-40 урона.
Баг это, или так и задумано - я не знаю, но мне из-за этого пришлось очень туго в убийстве Нэлис.
Написал тикет Близам, посмотрим, что они ответят.

Комментарий от 1027962

Ну вот я спецом зарегился. потому что вайпнулся уже раз 50.
в новых этих препандах. то есть 5.4 с нее не сбивается щит.
я ее сношу мимолетом до 50% и все. она юзает щит и я просто бегают воокруг нее. и она меня лупит.
и что делать?

вообщем сейчас убил. но это просто повезет не повезет. если она не юзает щит часто то вполне реально ее убить.
как она выходит из щита, то сразу ее станить. и бить всем чем можно.
ну и сбивать все.
тоже написал близам, глюк это или нет

Комментарий от 982733

Можно просто пробежать через всех мобов если выпить Зелье лазутчика.

Комментарий от Sovest

Пришел, увидел, победил. Без каких-либо видимых проблем.

Комментарий от Schoka

От квестодателя идите чуть вниз и сразу налево вдоль скалы, вход /way 48.66 78.87

Комментарий от Rightesnous

Начальный квест берётся в рейде Душа Дракона (вход через Пещеры Времени)

One of the quests in the chain to obtain the second stage of the legendary rogue daggers: Спящее лезвие and Дремлющее лезвие. The next stage of the legendary quest line that requires you to kill Deathwing and take part of his jaw can be found here Отцеубийство. The entire quest line starts here Доказательство силы.

Комментарий от 918665

Nalice appears to be phased so that only those doing the quest can find her. As a curious priest, obviously without the quest, I went looking for her in both underground places labelled "the Master's Cellar" underneath the ruins, and I could only find more undead and not even a glimpse of Nalice or any "arcane storage devices."

Комментарий от Kimera666

Here is the fight with Nalice.
Sadly I recorded in low Resolution by mistake and can't do the fight again =(.

http://youtu.be/R1Y6-XsLRHQ

I recomend using DBM for this fight since it has been updated to give you the warnings for this fight.

Комментарий от newmanfancypants

When sneaking in to the cellar, make sure you go down the east set of stairs, the west one is a large empty cave which does not connect to the correct east one.

Комментарий от 194076

Did the quest this morning, and here is a movie of the sneaking/kill. Loads of errors, and things that could be better, but hope you get a somewhat idea of the encounter :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFVpjYzVpYg

//Tokoyo

Комментарий от stuffeh

Нэлис has 3054580 hp, don't know if there's any sort of hard enrage. She has three stages that start when Arcane Destruction is done and she gains a new ability after each one. Without saying, failing to keep up will make or break you. Pre-MOP, combat seemed easier for me than assassin spec. Post MOP, at level 85, I don't know what spec would make this fight easiest. Most likely not sub due the positioning requirements and how works now.

There are many video walk throughs for this fight on youtube you can google for and see what each looks like, but this post has all of the boss' abilities listed and how to counter them all. Око Заззо and Проникновение в руины Каражана is the debuff that you have while sneaking in to kill her.

Stage 1 abilities:

Наделенное чародейством оружие: use Удар по почкам as she does this. The cd timer here for Наделенное чародейством оружие is about 21 seconds which is perfect for Удар по почкам. Or you can her, but the cd on that is 60 seconds. So when she uses Наделенное чародейством оружие again, you'll have to either kite or stun her anyways.

Исступление: she gets enraged often during the fight and should be Отравляющий уколed or kited.

Чародейские стрелы: Can be Пинокed, usually cast within 5-10 seconds of her enrage, so don't kite her too far if you're getting health back. This is the ONLY ability of hers that is interruptable.

Чародейское разрушение: Спринт or Внезапный порыв to the pillars and right click/use them and avoid the mini arcane explosions on the ground. You can step on them between explosions, but watch out for when they do explode. I'm pretty sure the explosions will hurt you if you're lagging and the server thinks you're in range of the explosion. When she does the 1.5 seconds pre-cast for this ability, you won't be able to get any combo points and will waste them if you use any finishing moves on her. So just sit tight and let your current run out and then refresh it again when it runs out while you're moving to the pillars.

Stage 2:
She keeps all her stage 1 abilities and gains the Наделенная чародейством броня ability. Need to have Таинственное прикосновение on your bars, probably the only time any rogue has needed this ability all of cata. (I wished Таинственное прикосновение would work this way on Божественный щит).

Stage 3:
She does everything in stage 2 and gains the Пылающие тени ability. This spawns fire everywhere around your toon, need to Плащ теней this off and maybe Уловка it while running out so that you take less damage. Remember, Плащ теней doesn't trigger GCD while Уловка does. You may be able to avoid this mechanic if she happens to be Удар по почкам'ed when she's supposed to cast it around 25%. I've seen her cast it at 2 min 50 seconds and another time at 2 min 15 seconds, so this isn't a berserk. (Thanks to Beltane for the verification).

After she's down, our mage friend will port us out, and with just a simple flight back to Ravenholdt you'll be enjoying Пасть забвения! (wowhead's itemset for the stage 2 legendary daggers).

Slightly updated for lvl 85 rogues wishing to attempt this in MOP.

Комментарий от 919223

Considering the fact that the mobs are phased to rogues on the quest, what is to keep a rogue from having a healer come with to make it very easy? Or at the very least, a druid to stealth with you and toss some hots on you. That is what I would like to know.

Комментарий от Mormolyce

Did this last night. Man I love Zazzo's little comments when you fail it... "Maybe it's your gear?" and "I know, right?" especially... that little dude kept me going :)

Okay so this one seems a little easier than Gilneas (or just shorter... or maybe it's just because I had practice this time). There don't seem to be any special "spotter" mobs who bust your chops out of stealth at long range this time. I'll try to break it down from memory:

Stage 1: The surface

Okay this area is the little hamlet in front of Karazhan. A road leads down from the quest giver to the front gates of the raid. Before it gets there a side road leads off to the left into a group of buildings that haven't been the same since the GFC. The road ends in a little cul-de-sac (I take every opportunity life gives me to use that word) surrounded by one building with walls still standing and two that are all burned down. If you look carefully you will see two ramps leading down, one in each of the burned down houses. The one on the side closer to Karazhan leads to a large system of empty caves and a yawning feeling of disappointment. It's the other one you want.

Now, the first thing you will encounter as you head down the path is a Drakonid mob on your right and a pack of 3 or so humans around an arcane Pillar of Kapow. As much fun as it is to sap a human, get nice and close and kablooie the whole pack it doesn't really serve much purpose (note: however you CAN pull a really fun trick by triggering a pillar then deliberately busting out of stealth and pulling everything nearby into the explosion ^_^). You can use the old sap/distract/shadowstep-hop tricks from Gilneas to precariously pick your way through the mobs or... just walk around the outside. Seriously. Skim the east side of the village, turn left along the wall of Karazhan until you get to the two buildings on the west side of the village, one standing and one burned down. Don't need to so much as sap a mob along the way.

Now, there's a bunch of mobs standing in the burned out building around the ramp leading down. This is the Amazing Ramp of Incredible Boredom, you want the ramp in the building across the street. Hug the wall of the intact building to get by the pack (don't waste distract you'll need it in a second). You're now standing right in front of the ramp where the cool kids hang out. Coming down the street on your left is a patrol of two mages, sap one if they get uncomfortably close (this should stop both of them as they are a paired patrol), or just dodge them. On your right is a drakonid, just stay out of his range. Two mobs guard the stairs. Now the most reliable trick here is to wait a few seconds and a third guard will come up the stairs (smoke break I guess). As soon as he stops at the top of the stairs distract all three of them so they face TOWARDS you. Now you can safely shadowstep behind the new guy and head downstairs.

Stage 2: Downstairs

There are openings left and right from this corridor, where mobs are standing around waiting for their next raid (there must be some black dragon death cult version of Trade they're all spamming in). The first pair have immobile mobs, just move past them. The second has a single mob who occasionally patrols back and forth between them, wait until he passes to make your move. At the end is a drakonid who patrols up and down the end of the hall. Sap him and spam /tickle at him. You monster.

Now you're in Medihv's skate park. The best place to be while planning your next move is the dip in the middle of the floor, only a few patrols come this way (one of which you sapped on the way in). Resist the urge to bust out your board and pull some mad nosegrinds on the sides of the trench. The way out is a narrow hall on your right (as you enter). See all those scary mobs in the way? And now you have to deal with the little Pac-Man ghosts or whatever they are too (you can't sap them but they can still be distracted). Okay it looks like it's going to be a nightmare but guess what? Shadowstep to the rescue again! See the drakonid guarding the hall on the left side? You need to get into shadowstep range of him. To do this you might want to distract or sap some of the closer mobs (like the mages around the Pillar of Endless Fun), also watch out for various mobs patrolling the area, you want to do this shadow-hop quickly.

Now you're in the final corridor. Sneak through in a box, watch a 3 hour cutscene and you can finally kill Metal Gear. First up there is a human patrolling left and right, sap is your friend! Beyond that a mage or two in front of one of the pillars, this is actually the only one that really helps. Getting it is kind of tricky, sap the closest mob and hug the wall, get in quick to trigger it then get out again, remember to quickly re-sap the mob behind you so you don't get rolled in the process. Watch the as that poor mage by the pillar gets taken out like a clogged cement mixer on Mythbusters. Once the explodey goodness finishes you have a bit of breathing room.

The last part I kind of fudged a bit, there's at least two packs of humans and some patrolling ghosts making your life some kind of original Nintendo nightmare. They seem to move in a very regular pattern though. If you use sap, distract and a shadow-hop at the right time you should be able to clear the last pack. I only did it once so I didn't develop any kind of regular strategy, it's a bit fiddly I think but didn't require anything special.

Stage 3: Victory is mine!

That's it! Once you engage the boss you'll be fine, if you die you can just res at your corpse, no need to run the gauntlet again. I was going to put up a strat for her but stuffeh has covered that, use his it's great. Just a couple of my notes:

1) I did this in my PVP sub spec like the Gilneas fight, it works wonders.

2) Put Expose Armor on your bars before you start (ditto Shiv and Gouge if you haven't already). I wiped the first time because I was trying to do the fight while flipping through my spell book in a panic (and a friend of mine kept trying to invite me to a dungeon too :P). WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU EXPOSE ARMOR... abcde... WHICH FREAKING TAB IS IT IN? AAAAHHHH! Be prepared like a good boy scout!

3) You can use KS to deal with her arcane infused weapon, but personally I saved that so I could use shadow dance when it was off CD. Instead I used either disarm or gouge followed by blind, or gouge -> sprint run away until it falls off. Gouge isn't quite long enough to deal with it completely.

4) If in Sub, if the KS wears off before Shadow Dance ends you can CS her as well. Remember that while using CS/KS/gouge/blind/disarm/run away like a little girl, she isn't damaging you, this allows your recup to tick and get you ahead in the HP war. Don't underestimate the power of CC!

Stage 4: My beautiful reward!

You're finished! The shiny lewts are yours! And not even any goddamn hunters to roll against you!

Most of all my advice is, relax and have fun. These quests take some persistance but MAN THEY'RE FUN. If only I could re-play them somehow... I had all these ideas about how to use the explodey pillars some more... :(

Комментарий от 911286

I think this stage of the quest chain is vastly easier than the first part, now that most of us know what we were doing.

Just general tips:

Stealth part-go sub, remember you can shadowstep-sap mobs. I didn't trigger any arcane bombs..it wasn't needed.There are much less pats here than Gilneas. glyph the vanish glyph, helps a great deal as mobs can't detect you while in the vanish state. for groups of two: sap one, vanish and sprint by. Then wait for the cooldown and repeat. Getting to Nalice is a snap with Preperation, Vanish sprint, prep vanish sprint gets you to her on one shot.

Nalice: a bit harder than Creed, she has 3 million life. I went sub in pve gear and glyphed blind. I kept cripping on my offhand and instant on my mainhand. She is easy to kite like Creed. Keep Recup up at all times and spam hemo until kidey shot is off cooldown then shadowdance or backstab.Repeat. Blind her now that you have glyphed it to regain a huge chunk of life if you ever get low. Read the posts above for more detailed explanations of the fight. She can be pretty tough.

hope this helps, very easy compared to Gilneas.

Комментарий от FlandreScarlet

You can use sprint + vanish to move pass mob front of Malice
3 sec is enough

Комментарий от 60255

This fight, as well as the sneaking to it, is WAY easier than the first part.

Sub worked like a charm, PvP Sub in PvE gear...did not even have to kite the boss at all, the selfheal of recup is enough to keep you up.

Комментарий от Euphemia

Just did this last night, and here are my lifesavers for the actual fight with Nalice:
First of all, open your spellbook and get out that Expose Armor!
As always (as the good rogue you are), be ready with Disarm, Shiv, Gouge/Kidney Shot, Kick and Recuperate.

She does & You do:
Arcane Infused Weapon | Disarm her or stun her in any way possible.

She does & You do:
Arcane Missiles | Kick

She does & You do:
Arcane Infused Armor | Expose Armor

She does & You do:
Enrage | Shiv

She does & You do:
Arcane Destruction | Click activated pillars. Avoid shizzles on the ground, plix.

She does & You do:
Blazing Shadows | Cloak of Shadows, and keep moving.

(Credits to stuffeh for digging up the abilities in the post up towards the top)

Oh, and go sub if you have trouble in other specs. Survivability rocks!
Also, why not use those Arcane Storage Devices? We're rogues? Don't we just love it when we can click on things without breaking stealth?

Video with my path to Nalice, as well as glimpses from the actual fight with her:
Here's the video - hope it can be of help, guys!

So, why you still hangin around here? Go get your filthy hands on them new shinies: Спящее лезвие & Дремлющее лезвие! They do make a perfect couple, indeed...

//EDIT: Linked to the video

Комментарий от Baneleaf

Do not try to get too cute with this fight. I did this as a sub spec but in my combat gear. I the boss has a berserk after a few minutes which I found out the hard way. I was running in and stunning, getting off a few good shots and then running away to heal and regain energy. She kept one shotting met at like 20% and I realized i needed to just kick her arse. First attempt at not trying to never get hit and she went down with no problem. I actually broke two sets of daggers with the first hour of attempts.

Комментарий от nakata9559

The tenth quest of the chain to obtain Голад, Сумрак Аспектов and Тириош, кошмар столетий, Клыки отца.

Proving Your Worth
A Hidden Message
To Ravenholdt
To Catch a Thief
Our Man in Gilneas
Assassinate Creed
The Deed is Done, Rewards - Страх and Воздаяние
Cluster Clutch
Our Man in Karazhan
Blood of the Betrayer
Victory in the Depths, Rewards - Спящее лезвие and Дремлющее лезвие
Sharpening Your Fangs
Patricide, Rewards - Голад, Сумрак Аспектов and Тириош, кошмар столетий, Клыки отца

Комментарий от 95613

I like how this grants 69,000 exp on completion.....what does an 85 rogue right now do with 69,000 xp? Blizz needs to get some way for us to stockpile this and put it toward the next lvling thing or something. Just throwing it away once you max your toons. Maybe let me transfer extra to an alt...that would be cool for us to lvl other toons.

Комментарий от Rendermoon

If you pay attention to what blizzard tells you in-game (things like "Use Shiv to dispel it!") and put crippling poison on your OH, it's really easy. Especially if you have Improved Recup.

Комментарий от 973280

going sub makes this fight simple. I used blind glyph and just recuped/bandaged to full health.. let blind run it's full course to shorten cd's

Комментарий от Sairibird

I'll be the first to admit I don't know a thing about the subtlety spec or pvp in general, so when I went to kill Nalice in sub spec, I failed rather spectacularly when she was only around 54% or so. For my second attempt I switched back to my main spec of assassination, even though most people say even combat would be better for the fight. I managed to kill her on that attempt without ever falling below 60% health myself. Really the key to this fight is to stick with what you know and of course keep up recuperate. If you know how to play sub or combat, great! But if you're like me an really only know assassination spec don't feel like you're not going to be able to get this down.

Комментарий от digitalutopia1

Not to outdo anybody that's posted here previously - nor will I attempt to get anywhere near as colorful as Mormolyce has; but here's a few tips to fill in, what I felt was a bit confusing.

Step 1: Outside

The easiest way to get where you want to be is to simply go around the lion's share of...well, everything. When you start, immediately jump off the ledge to your right, this will allow you to skip past everybody down that first road. After traveling the distance of that road, you'll see a path that leads back up to your left, and most likely one of those big patrol guys. Sap him, and continue hugging the right edge, past the raid entrance, and around the back of the only building that hasn't been razed to the ground.

When you get around that building, you'll see another one of those big dragonkin mobs - sap him, and the building (or rather, building's foundation) with the stairs is ahead, and to the right. Those stairs will have two cultists at the top, with a 3rd one that patrols from the first basement hallway, up to the top of the stairs - where he stops for a short while to talk to his buddies. When he does this (reaches the top of the stairs), use this opportunity to use distract. Now, there's two ways you can do this. You can either approach it from the side, and jump over the edge, aiming for the corner of the stair hole closest to you, and furthest away from the cultists - or you can approach the stairs from the back, requiring you to sap another big dragonkin guard. The choice here is yours - depending how quick on your feet you are.

Step 2: Inside

When you drop in, stick to the center of the hallway - this will allow you to sneak past the mobs to either side - allowing you to concentrate on the dragonkin patrols up the middle. Completely ignore the first left-right passageway, but be prepared for a cultist patrol that will walk across the main hallway - going from one side room to another - pausing each time, on the 2nd left-right passageway.

Once you get to the main room of the cellar, you'll see a 2nd dragonkin patrol that moves from the far side of the trench to the hallway you've just traveled. Your next step is to get to the far side of that trench, avoiding the two arcane elemental patrols that will cross your path in between the first hallway, and the trench. Try to sap that 2nd dragonkin patrol near the end of that trench, so you can easily reapply the sap if you need some extra time.

Once you're in the far side of that trench, you're pretty much in a safe zone - as that dragonkin patrol will be the only mob that can find you there, as you'll notice your red circle of doom doesn't leave the confines of that trench. The hallway that you're interested in will be to your right - guarded by two dragonkin mobs, but this is where it really gets tricky.

Facing the 2nd hallway, you'll see a group of mages on your left, surrounding a pillar, and a group of cultists to your right around one of those purple runic symbols. This is the needle you need to thread, to get to the dragonkin mob that should be directly in front of you, on the left side of the hallway entrance. Your goal, once you reach that dragonkin mob, is to sap him. However, here's where things get to Nintendo levels of timing. Two cultists will path in front of you, parallel to the trench you're in. An arcane elemental will constantly run around in a circle, around the cultists to your left. Finally, another cultist will peroidically path across the hallway you're trying to get to - stopping to crouch down at a box to the left of the dragonkin mob, and then returning to the other side of the hallway entrance.

This is the part where I really recommend being Subtlety, as shadowstep will help you out a lot here. However, it's possible to do without Subtlety - you just need impeccable timing. You want to pick a point where the two-cultist patrol is walking away from you, at least to the right of center of the circle of cultists. You also want to wait for that elemental to be roughly the same position, and that final cultist patrol to be on the right of the hallway entrance. This will take some patience for everything to be just right. When it is, drop a distract to the right of the elemental, and run (and shadowstep) to that dragonkin guard - and sap him. Immediately move a bit down the hallway so he's no longer in your RCoD(red circle of doom), and prepare to sap a cultist patrol that walks back and forth across the hallway.

Step 3: The Gauntlet

It's important to sap this cultist so he's as close to the left side of the hallway as possible - because the next step is to give yourself a bit more breathing room. Now, this hallway goes a bit crazy with the elemental patrols, not to mention various cultists and mages. However, you'll notice that directly in front of you is one of those pillars that go boom. You want to get as much bang for your buck out of this pillar - so the first step is to drop a distract when both the left-right pair of pathing elementals and the up-down pair of pathing elementals are near this pillar. Once you do this, hug the left wall and creep forward until you can activate the pillar, sabotage it, and back away to avoid getting hit by the overload. If you did it correctly, all 4 elementals, two mages, and the cultist you sapped should die - giving you some much needed breathing room.

Now, you need to move over to the right edge of the hallway, and be prepared to do something similar to the next pillar. This time however, you won't be able to get all 4 elementals, but you will be able to get the left-right pathing ones - which will be enough. Remember, to hug the right wall when sabotaging the pillar, otherwise, you're likely to aggro the mage. Once this pillar thins the herd a bit, all that will remain on your right, will be two cultists kneeling at a low table. At this point, drop a distract, hit sprint, and run through them. Yes - run through them. One of the nice things about distract that I forgot - is that it not only makes mobs turn away, but it also (briefly) prevents them from aggroing at all.

At this point you should be home free- and especially free of that irritating gnome's eye, and all the obnoxious porting. As far as killing the boss, others have explained this perfectly - so I'll leave that to them. I just felt I could help with what I found to be the most frustrating part of this entire quest - as I prefer the real challenge to be a fight, not some obnoxious arbitrary mechanic.

Комментарий от zerezam

A lot of Nalice fight guides have been saying that this fight is impossible as an Assassin rogue or just plain tough. She may be menacing but she's actually very easy for an Assassin Rogue if you know what to do. I actually killed her with just white damage (no specials) and in this mini-guide, I'm telling you how...

Preparation: (nice but not necessary)

Drink a flask of the winds (+300 agility). Eat skewered eel (+90 Agi.). This should translate into shortening the fight by minutes.

Have a couple of healing potions too. A Warlock cookie would be nice too.

Nalice abilities:

Arcanite Infused Weapon (AIW): Her attacks become more powerful.

Enrage (EN): She becomes stronger.

Arcane Missiles (AM): She shoots magic missiles at you.

Bubble (BU): She casts a bubble on herself that makes her invincible. (That's what I'm calling it here because that's essentially what it is - a bubble)

Burning Shadows (BS): Fire spawns on the ground wherever you walk (so keep walking, use cloak of shadows if you need to, or feint if you're really desperate).

Particular talent from tech. tree that you will need to beat her: Just 1 (ONE) point in deadly brew. It causes crippling poison to be cast.

The Fight:

What to do:

You will engage while in stealthed mode from behind and garrote her. She will be swinging at you, causing white damage. Use this time to build up 5 combo points 2 Mutilates but DO NOT use envenom or ANY OTHER 5 point ability. The reason is because the first spell she will cast is AIW. Hit recuperate and run away. Notice that during the white damage round, you cast crippling poison on her. Now, even though she's as strong as a cannon, she as slow as a turtle. While she chases you, you will regain health because of Recuperate. Neat, huh?

Don't go too far away though. After she gives chase for about 4-6 seconds, she will cast enrage. You need to run up to her WHILE she's casting it use your shiv on her because she will be effected by it by the time you reach her. If you do it right, she will return to normal and will only have been enraged for a split second, causing you no damage. Continue doing white damage, using mutilate to recharge your combo points. Interrupt her when she begins casting Arcane missiles and then she will do the pillar thing. This actually marks the end of her Phase 1.

During the pillars, small arcane explosions are happening on the ground that will cause you damage. There's a trick to dodging them and you will incur no damage.

When it's over, run back to her. She will begin casting her new phase 2 spell, "Bubble", you need to use your expose armor on it whenever she has it on or else you can't do any white damage to her. Ironically you can still interrupt her arcane missiles. But you can't take off the enrage effect so your attack sequence when she has the bubble up is: expose armor(even if all you have is just 1 combo point, it will remove it - use mutilate or shiv if you don't have a combo point but be quick about it), if she's enraged after BU gone, use shiv, if not, use mutilate and get combo points up, interrupt AM if she casts it. When she casts AIW, again run away and use recuperate. She will still be slow by your crippling poison even if she has BU up. When she casts EN, run back to her, use expose armor, use shiv, cause white damage, interrupt AM, gain combo points, run if she does AIW... rinse, and repeat.

Once she gets to 1/3 of her life, she will do another round of pillars. It's the same as the first.

In phase 3, she will have a new spell, "Burning shadows", basically it causes fire everywhere you walk. Use Cloak if you need to but keep running no matter what. She will still go through her routine: AIW, BU, EN, AM. You still need to do the same stuff you did in Phase 2 in order to take her down but this time you have fire to deal with. Just avoid it and try to maintain your control over her by staying true to your abilities when its time. Timing is key.

When all is said and done - She will die, spawning into her true nasty form at the same time. Loot her body and take the vial. You get a new quest for two new daggers: The Sleeper and The Dreamer. Go to Ravenholdt and receive your prize...

Yay :)

Комментарий от MrsGrim

The stealth part of this seemed shorter than the Creed stealth challenge. I did this part in assassination spec. Had a little trouble on the stairs to get underneath the place, but figured out that you just wait for the patrol guy to be at the bottom and then go in. It worked out well!

For Nalice...I tried about 8-9 times in assassination. Couldn't do it. The survivability isn't there. So I went to my offspec, Combat. Was able to do it on my second try ( the first one I forgot to put kick in my bars =_=). Just keep recuperate up and my health never dropped below 65%!

So hopefully this helps those of you who do not want to do this in subtlety, I did no part of this whole quest line in sub spec at all. Happy hunting!

Комментарий от 339275

one shot...thanks for the guides

assassin spec

Комментарий от unknownzodiac

U can skin theyr dragon form :D

Комментарий от 964681

I just did this quest and it was pretty tricky with the arcane explosions. Managed after like 5-6 tries on them (lol). Think I had some delay or something, because I wasn't even close to them when I died (always on the right side in the 1st arcanes).
Never had to fight the shadow flame thing, Пылающие тени - I simply kidney shotted her on 30% and then I didn't see the shadows :)
The fight is pretty basic. Avoid stuff, disarm/dodge, dispel and kick.

Awesome guide btw <3

Комментарий от powermax

I just finished this quest this am. I also followed the directions/advice give by Euphemia and Digitalutopia which were dead on. I completed this quest in combat spec., and after a few tries, was able to defeat her. Just follow the advice given, and with a little practise you'll able able to complete it too!

Комментарий от MBar

For anyone doing it at lvl 85 in 5.0.4, I still found Combat easier than Assassination when actually fighting Nalice.

Remember that Shadow Step is a talent now and can be used by any spec, but we are missing Improved Recuperate. Instead, we have the Leech Poison talent! The loss of Crippling Poison to use Leeching is well worth it as the healing it gives is considerable.

Counter her abilities effectively and keep Recuperate up and you'll finish her!

Комментарий от what3ver212

Just FYI, the bug that showed up with 5.04 where expose armor didn't work in the 3rd phase seems to be hotfixed, as I had no problem with that tonight.

The bug where there is no red aggro radius ring when you're stealthing in is still there though, just use Sneaking Potion; you can practically run through the mobs and not aggro them with it active. Spent hours trying to guess my aggro radius and couldn't get past the last couple mobs, with that I did it 1st try.

Комментарий от Treydor

If you go down the stairs and in to a cave with no npcs you are in the wrong 'master's cellar'.

Simply turn around and head back up the stairs. Across the pathway on your right hand side the correct location.

Комментарий от trest

This is super-easy now, at level 100.

Just did this as a 684 Subtlety Rogue. Didn't have to worry about the stealth radius for most of the run to the boss — being 15 levels higher than the mobs means that they didn't aggro even when the red circle was overlapping them.

Killed the boss with one hit (pre-potted, Дренорское зелье ловкости, Внезапный удар), after Шаг сквозь теньing behind the boss. So, the fight mechanics were irrelevant, and the pre-potting was definitely overkill :-D

Комментарий от Calucias

I made a video on how to get these daggers the quickest way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSSnSxvOmI4

Комментарий от Cinnestra

Came here to find coordinates, and struck out, so here they are.

Entrance to the downstairs part is at 48.7, 78.9

Комментарий от icogetch

Be careful if you are doing the quest after Legion. It is possible to walk into the Karazhan Catacoombs, but then a closed door will appear behind you, with no way out.

The only escape will be hearthstone.

Комментарий от Saurfon

I'm not sure if something has changed, but this quest was trivial to do (I had much more trouble with Убийца Кредо). I did this as a 53 sub rogue with no stealth enhancing abilities/items (other than a few distracts and saps). A few times I moved closer to non distract/sapped enemies than I was thinking it would let me and was never seen. The target NPC was obviously one-shot-ed.

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Проникните в хозяйский погреб в руинах вокруг Каражана, убейте Нэлис и добудьте фиал с кровью черного дракона.

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Мне удалось обнаружить, где прячется сама Нэлис – в хозяйском погребе, приличных размеров подвале, находящемся под руинами впереди.

Тут повсюду служители ее культа. Ну и, помимо всего прочего, она везде расставила какие-то непонятные устройства, которые, похоже, служат для хранения магии. Возможно, тебе удастся задействовать их против нее самой.

Проскользни мимо этих сектантов, устрани Нэлис – и не забудь о ее крови для Гневиона.

Я за тобой послежу издалека и вытащу обратно, если что пойдет не так. Что? Нет, сам я туда не полезу!

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A Legendary Undertaking - Helping Your Rogue Pick Up A Pair Of Fangs A Guide for Obtainable Feats of Strength Lore of Wrathion, the Black Prince Obtaining Legendary Items