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#82349: 769 AH. Dang. Uljay Timur khan. Sarai al-Jadida.
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Keywords: 769 sarai uljaytimur
Weight, g: 1.6
Size, mm: 15-17.5
Mint: Sarai al-Jadida
Date: 769 AH
Metal: AR
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orientexpert » 6-March-2010 12:18am
Definitely. al-Sarai al-Jadid{ah}, 769AH. So why the question mark?
I wonder if this specimen has not emerged anywhere as yet :-)
Weight, size, origin?

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vapp » 6-March-2010 12:20am
One of the most rare and intriguing type of 14 cent. Jujid coins! BTW, it worth to change reign period of Uljay Timur in category header to "768-769 AH".

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orientexpert » 6-March-2010 12:23am
My congratulations. For the moment, to all my knowledge, I cannot point to more than 14 known pieces of this type. This one can be 15th...

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orientexpert » 6-March-2010 12:34am
By the way, I have every right to regret that this coin has not come to light a couple of weeks ago, otherwise it could get directly to my latest survey of Uljay Timur's coinage, printed quite freshly in 'Epigrafika Vostoka' #28 (dated 2009 but actually out of print in this February), pp. 168-186.

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charm » 6-March-2010 1:20am
Is it new die?

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orientexpert » 6-March-2010 11:01am
The present coin is different from all I have seen. Just my personal observation relates only to the first discovered specimen, the four pieces from the Hermitage collection and one of the two preserved in the Astrakhan museum (pencil rubbing by E.Goncharov). All the rest is just a statistical account communicated orally from Goncharov's research.

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vapp » 6-March-2010 11:32am
But one another specimen was published by Klokov, Lebedev as had been find at Selitrennoe site

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orientexpert » 6-March-2010 11:57am
That's right, but they have published a hand-made drawing, which is not absolutely documentary and thus precludes the exact die comparison with other available images, even despite certain similarity to some of them.

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vapp » 6-March-2010 1:06pm
True!

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charm » 6-March-2010 1:59pm
Metric data has been added