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    improved clutch action

    out for a stator test ride;
    with a new clutch oil jet Aprilia part #0268751 size 40 and a new seal in the slave [i found replacement seals at the rebuilder [because brembo does not sell kits]
    the seal is marked "25 DJF 3505817 1 1/8 H" it is a standard 1 1/8 th inch master cylinder seal
    seal dimentions;od 29.5mm, id 18.5 [tapered] and 4.4mm wide]
    AF1 has slave seals too
    '04 &'05 come with a #60 jet, '06 and later with the #40

    there have been later bikes reported with the larger #60 jet so you might want to check

    the jet was $8 the seal $3 best money spent on the bike yet
    no creep, no drag and neutral without thinking, wish i'd done this 30,000 miles ago
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    congrats on the easy fix
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    Quote Originally Posted by aprsv2007fl View Post
    congrats on the easy fix
    well it did take a while to hone the hard annodize out of the slave cylinder to smooth it, [the rough surface/return spring is where i think the air comes in as the vacuum drops] but now i have a real clutch. i recommend this mod to everyone
    i only bled my clutch once in 29,000 miles, but the change is like night and day.... little wiggle of the toe and you're in neutral.
    Noel-theknurl

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    "Oil jet"

    Hi Noel, where is this jet? sounds like a great fix.

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    It located right above the clutch slave. The jet is rather difficult to get out with out some very small tweezers or something but it is really easy to to get to. Just pull lthe cover bolt out and the jet is behind it.

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    Thumbs up

    Thanks tdogg, I have been thinking about a new slave, mines not really ever had a problem, but it is quite heavy, and I'm changing gear alot in the tight twisty roads over the mountains. Maybe MPL or Evo' ??


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    Quote Originally Posted by RSV Boy View Post
    Thanks tdogg, I have been thinking about a new slave, mines not really ever had a problem, but it is quite heavy, and I'm changing gear alot in the tight twisty roads over the mountains. Maybe MPL or Evo' ??

    Changing gear using the clutch??? I'd be interested to find out how that works out for you, as mines quite heavy.

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    I'll be trying this. I just want to make sure I pull the correct bolt off.
    Any pictures from the side?

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    Noel - so just to clarify, are you recommending this as a fix for the annoying air leak problem? (lucky you don't have it) or is it just a friendlier performing clutch that eliminates those other annoying issues.
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    Attachment 84019

    Here's a shot from the side. I hope you can see the red arrow.

    Remove that bolt and the jet is underneath. You don't have to drain the oil, but a few tablespoons will drain out anyways. Use as big a screwdriver as you can get into the slot of the jet since you don't want to damage the soft brass when un-threading it. Grab the old one with tweezers or something and take it out.

    Install the new one and only make it as tight as needed to keep it from un-screwing itself. It's not like the jet is holding anything together, so almost no torque is required. Install the bolt again and torque it to 100 in-lbs. Go ride and make sure it doesn't leak!

    Please keep in mind that a badly-bled clutch master and/or slave cylinder will cause the same problems, so check that first since it doesn't cost anything.
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    The oil jet won't do anything for the air leak.

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    Awsome!!!!
    Thanks so much!!!!
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    I did the oil jet couple weeks ago. that and a good bleeding fixed my neutral problem. I used a really thin drill bit to get the old jet out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fast4d View Post
    I did the oil jet couple weeks ago. that and a good bleeding fixed my neutral problem. I used a really thin drill bit to get the old jet out.
    Drive through Ojai much?
    I can't wait to try it out! I just need to take some time to do it. Most of my time is being spent with family when I am not on mission which seems to be quite frequent these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StefanJ View Post
    Drive through Ojai much?
    I can't wait to try it out! I just need to take some time to do it. Most of my time is being spent with family when I am not on mission which seems to be quite frequent these days.
    yes but I usually ride my motard up the 33.

    if it's late the 150 gets jammed with cars then it might be better to take the 101 and up 33.

    it might be a bit wet (and possibly snowy) and dirty this weekend.
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